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    • #5935
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      If you have a spare hour and your rage levels need topping up, Channel 4 have an exciting documentary for you: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-hospital/4od#3113934
      Basically it looks at the ;

    • #6827
      Stephen
      Participant

      We’re all just terrible people @hils. Someone else’s going to have to give me the low down on this as I’m sure I will be screaming at the TV after 5 minutes …..

    • #6831
      Annette A
      Participant

      We are totally selfish people who haven’t been eating our raw vegetables to cure our diabetes (cross-forum alert!)
      I love the bit where one of them (who wont do tests etc) says:
      >’I don’t let my diabetes run my life. I do what I want to do, when I want to do it.’
      Like die?

    • #6833
      Tim
      Keymaster

      As @katie will no doubt attest, I spend most of my time shouting at the telly; even Dragons’ Den winds me up for some reason (possibly because, as everyone knows, Dragons live in caves, not in dens). So I’ll avoid watching it – I’m hoarse enough already…!

    • #6838
      Tim
      Keymaster

      Diabetes UK have just put up a response to this program, which seems to have got a lot of people’s backs up:

      http://bit.ly/dBDurs

      [edit] and here’s JDRF’s response too – http://bit.ly/df4vGi

    • #6839
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      I did watch last night and having rinsed through the comments and posts on these 2 sites it has certainly done it’s job.

      An official response from DUK – http://www.diabetes.org.uk/About_us/News_Landing_Page/TV-programme-unhelpful-in-dispelling-diabetes-myths/
      http://www.facebook.com/diabetesuk
      http://www.diabetessupport.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?t=10205

      We can all argue about what they didn’t do, what they did do, what the kids did and didn’t do, but as we know in TV the producers aim was to shock and generate, sorry provoke feeling. Which it has done!

      That said, the mum who was treating her daughter to a night on the lash for her birthday is simply a disgrace! My rant over.. ???Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    • #6840
      Tim
      Keymaster

      I think as a counterpoint we should film the next Shoot Up night out to show how responsible, well organised and well controlled diabetics behave. Or then again…

    • #6843
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Everyone is allowed to slip and say s– diabetes but we all know is around the corner if we don’t get our act together for the majority of the time. I was very disappointed by the program the final comment ” Obesity the main problem” no not for us type 1 kids. What they need is emotional support, parents who couldn’t careless during the already tricky stage of teen years. What the kids need are diabetic mentors who can say yes I’ve been to uni got drunk every night and still managed to sober up for my 24hr insulin doze(god knows how). I also managed to not test my myself for years and yet still have a 6.5 HbA1c because I listened to what people said. Pregnancy is difficult but seeing your consult every 2 weeks at Poole hosp and wanting the best for your babies there is no option for such a short time in your life.

      I found the amputation of the toe and the ulcerated foot horrific and most certainly a good incentive to test bloods.

      Ch4 should now show the positive side of diabetes think of our own Alison traveling the world!
      Sorry to rant and rave I’m just shocked what was shown.

    • #6844
      Hairy Gnome
      Participant

      I’ve just watched the programme on 4oD (thanks for the link @hils), and I’m quite ambivalent about it. The first though that occurred to me was to wonder why these people weren’t being treated by their GPs, I’ve never been to a hospital clinic in my life! The second thing was to wonder how they’d been taught to manage their diabetes, fixed doses of insulin at regular times would never work for me. My final thought was, I wouldn’t want that guy as my consultant anyway if he thinks my diabetes is self inflicted. I didn’t shout at the monitor though… much… :P

    • #6850
      Tim
      Keymaster

      I suppose from the point of view of Channel 4, a documentary about people managing their diabetes extremely well would be extremely dull and rather mundane. Shock tactics get viewers. Hence the usual crap mockumentaries that are churned out by Channel Four and their ilk.

      As a result I only listen to documentaries on the BBC World Service, dagnabit!

    • #6852
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      It still didn’t differentiate between T1 and T2 and basically made it sound like it was their own fault they had diabetes, grrrrr!!!! It would have been nice of they had shown what a drag diabetes management is for young people to try to help others understand what it’s like to deal with it 24/7.

    • #6890
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Well (having just been linked here from B3ta and joining up) I took a look at the start of the programme, but decided my spleen couldn’t take it. Reminded me too much of that stupid story of an American girl who’s parents didn’t treat her type-1 diabetes for religious reasons, praying instead. The girl died at 9 if I remember right. That thought still makes me quite angry. It annoys me that people don’t get the support to handle it, as it really isn’t that hard once you get your head around it, and then you can have lots of fun, without body parts being removed.

      @Teloz: When I was first diagnosed I lived in Cardiff, and my GP there had very little knowledge of diabetes and chose to refer me to the hospital clinic instead. the nurse there was excellent, as were the doctors I saw. It just ;

    • #6892
      Hairy Gnome
      Participant

      Hi! Welcome @neobrainless, I hope you’ll enjoy being on here as much as I do, I’m one of the token T2s by the way… :D I’m sure our Supermod Alison will meet and greet you shortly, but Tim Almighty has just gone away on his hols, so it’ll be a fortnight before you meet him.

      It’s amazing how few people really understand diabetes, especially when it comes to health care professionals. I don’t suppose we can blame documentary makers for wanting to sensationalise things, they have to keep the ratings up and documentary/public information film are not synonymous.

      My current GPs and DSN are brilliant, I’ve no need to trundle off to hospital they look after me so well.

    • #6899
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Im new to this site so hello everyone!

      This program really annoyed me also; what annoys me the most is because i am overwieght people automatically presume it caused my diabetes and programs like this dont help !!

      With regard to the level of NHS care ive never seen the same diabetic nurse twice (they all tell me something different each time) and my GP has fully admitted she is not that clued up on diabatese. I have never been refered to any specialist; i was literally tested on the type 2 drugs these did nothing for 5 days as my blood sugar continued to rise to about 38 in the end. Then i was given my insulin in a non diabetic ward (as the diabetic ward was full) and told how to inject then checked out.

    • #6906
      Tim
      Keymaster

      Hello @neobrainless and @cbbc11 – welcome to Shoot Up! Pull up a chair and join in the endless despond and misery :-D

    • #6918
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Hello. I’ve found my way here from B3ta. I have type 2 and I am also a coeliac which adds to the fun.

    • #6921
      Tim
      Keymaster

      @altobunny – hiya, welcome to sunny Shoot Up, make yourself at home!

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